tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.comments2023-11-02T08:25:48.389-07:00Kupu‘āina CoalitionKupu‘āina Coalitionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-61124823483768174192009-03-31T13:27:00.000-07:002009-03-31T13:27:00.000-07:00Great explanation for us legal lay folk. Mahalo!Great explanation for us legal lay folk. Mahalo!Daniel Leuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15367088522837563967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-37140118417230715542009-03-28T20:53:00.000-07:002009-03-28T20:53:00.000-07:00NO MATTER WHAT LANGUAGE YOU USE IT SHOULD BE ILLEG...NO MATTER WHAT LANGUAGE YOU USE IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO SELL ANY CEDED LANDS PERIOD . THE LAND SHOULD GO TO IT'S PEOPLE AND EVEN THEN IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO SELL BUT NOT TO LEASE HAWAIIANS CAN MAKE MONEY AND PRESERVE THE LAND.Syber66https://www.blogger.com/profile/09709179009488841181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-33333229412573310582009-03-04T00:51:00.000-08:002009-03-04T00:51:00.000-08:00Question for Linda Lingle and Attorney General Ben...Question for Linda Lingle and Attorney General Bennett: How will selling the Ceded Lands better known as The Crown Lands in Honolulu Hawaii benifit the Kanaka Ma'oli known today as the Hawaiians, and also the Public at present and in the future??????<BR/>Aloha Pu'mehana,<BR/>Lancelot Hali, LincolnUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10833463149416885411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-7442457530056530772009-02-25T11:11:00.000-08:002009-02-25T11:11:00.000-08:00Eo!Eo!launahelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05185507893217938421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-38042122673409179302009-02-21T12:48:00.000-08:002009-02-21T12:48:00.000-08:00The Coalition is using a great medium for getting ...The Coalition is using a great medium for getting out really great details of what's been happening! Who exactly went to this meeting? What you are finding is exactly the kind of treatment you'd expect from House leadership on issues critical to Hawaiians which threaten major business and economic interests. Isn't it curious we find a Democratic leadership joining the Republican Governor on such a crucial issue? It shows how power and influence can infect either side of the aisle. Unfortunately, this treatment of the ceded lands issue is all too familiar, as it has repeated itself for issues involving water and natural resources protection, Hawaiian home lands, and cultural protection.Tomoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09090497819704743948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-8855172669833391552009-02-13T03:12:00.000-08:002009-02-13T03:12:00.000-08:00Mahalo for your support and advocacy Keahi! It's ...Mahalo for your support and advocacy Keahi! It's greatly appreciated. Are you still considered a constituent on the Big Island?<BR/><BR/>We'll be launching a new campaign soon. =D We'll keep everyone updated.Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-47138496575061001752009-02-10T17:11:00.000-08:002009-02-10T17:11:00.000-08:00Hi, hard working Ku`puaina I've called Calvin Say'...Hi, hard working Ku`puaina <BR/>I've called Calvin Say's office today Tues. Feb.10 and his secretary will get the message to schedule HB 1667 for the committee meeting on Fri. 02/13/09. that worked out fine. Didn't have luck informing Blake Oshiro's office about this. the sec. says I've got to go to Ito and Karamatsu and my own Rep. So I did that even though it's not the protocol you've suggested. Left message with Mele Carrol on the advise of the sec. of one office. Left message with my own Rep. Hanohano as well. <BR/>It's a hard job making the offices understand the route Ku`pu Ainal Coalition prefers. However one good piece of news is that the secretary of Hanohano knew about the K. Coalition and even sent out one of your postcards. Did the best I could. signed, KeahiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04885688525358161663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-74404109850777172242009-02-10T08:14:00.000-08:002009-02-10T08:14:00.000-08:00Aloha Roger. Mahalo for your support. We send ou...Aloha Roger. Mahalo for your support. We send our e-mails to a few hundred people, but we're unsure how many people these e-mails get forwarded to.Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-25436556967050594022009-02-09T14:13:00.000-08:002009-02-09T14:13:00.000-08:00keep it coming! how many people are getting these...keep it coming! how many people are getting these emails?Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09244628458304492446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-56328633204514157422009-02-03T17:58:00.000-08:002009-02-03T17:58:00.000-08:00Sorry about your lack of original or deep thought ...Sorry about your lack of original or deep thought Mr. or Ms. Mouthpiece. I've said my piece and you've failed to disprove it. BTW - Who gives a damn that Bennett and Lingle don't agree on something. Go ahead that keep deluding yourselve all the way to the loosers' circle. Oops! You're already there!Manawaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14534748612454568095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-11620065694766808212009-02-03T10:51:00.000-08:002009-02-03T10:51:00.000-08:00That you think we can't handle any opposing opinio...That you think we can't handle any opposing opinions is way off base. If we couldn't "handle" your opinion, we would've simply deleted your comments. Instead, we countered your opinion and provided specific sources of conflicting statements made by the Lingle Administration. <BR/><BR/>Your assessment of how a moratorium "WOULD" affect the state's bond rating is also WAY off. If that were true, how you do you explain that the moratorium that's been in place since 1994 has not had an effect on the state's bond rating? How do you also explain that the unrelinquished claims of Native Hawaiians, that, for years, has been and continues to be disclosed on state bond offerings for decades has not affected bond ratings?<BR/><BR/>Manawai, what's happening now is that you have not come anywhere close to refuting our responses. We refuted yours and we used the statements of the Attorney General (actually video footage) and a written statement from the Office of the Governor. What have you brought to this discussion?Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-39332890971392935162009-02-03T10:26:00.000-08:002009-02-03T10:26:00.000-08:00Perhaps you should take a look at our analytics Ge...Perhaps you should take a look at our analytics Genius. We actually have a lot of visitors to this page, unless you're so bored with your life that you visit us here more than 100 times a day. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps you should listen to the video. Mark Bennett says the case has already had an effect on bonds. Past tense buddy. Yet, his Chief Executive has been saying otherwise. <BR/><BR/>Go ahead and keep on posting here. People who are "in the know" are laughing at you. FYI, We've consulted with bond experts that have worked with the state previously. Perhaps it is you who knows little about government finance and what language has been written on state government bonds for more than a decade already. <BR/><BR/>I only "site" stories from the news? Hello, what I cited was comments directly from Mark Bennett and Governor Lingle's office. When you put the two together, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that the two don't jive. <BR/><BR/>Who cares what Moody's thinks? Moody's is not in the business of court room consultation. If you don't know this, again, perhaps it is you who knows little about "the concepts of government finance" and apparently, it's "obviously over your head."Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-58139553633175711652009-02-03T02:35:00.000-08:002009-02-03T02:35:00.000-08:00Because it's only the Hawaiians and a few patroniz...Because it's only the Hawaiians and a few patronizing non-Hawaiians attempting to act "PC" who are protesting the State's actions. When Doane added, "...and so does the rest of the community." She was merely trying to sound inclusive when she actually means to exclude all but NH's. That is why she's disingenuous and racist.Manawaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14534748612454568095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-14165173643921147022009-02-03T02:27:00.000-08:002009-02-03T02:27:00.000-08:00I’m surprised at your very poor arguments, KC. Th...I’m surprised at your very poor arguments, KC. The ceded lands is has EVERYTHING to do with the sovereignty movement as you well know but are so desperate to renounce. If there is no N.H. Sovereignty, then there is no ceded lands issue. If the Leiali`i and Laiopua housing projects had been solely for Native Hawaiians your voice would be silent. I think that’s fairly elementary. <BR/><BR/>All you site about the bond ratings item are stories you’re parroting from the news as opposed to any rational argument of your own. The concepts of government finance are obviously over your head. The bond ratings would only be affected if the ceded lands are encumbered as the HSC has attempted to do. It's also obvious that Moody's, et al. don't think you have a ghost of a chance of winning your arguments in the U.S. Supreme Court.<BR/><BR/>As for not posting here anymore…I may or may not. I’m usually pretty bored when I end up here as it appears you have little or no readers. It’s interesting how you can create a blog, invite comments, and then cannot handle any opposing opinions. A little sensitive, huh? Maybe it’s that as Jack Nicholson said, “You can’t handle the truth!”Manawaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14534748612454568095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-64363644902907430642009-02-02T15:56:00.000-08:002009-02-02T15:56:00.000-08:00Doane said Hawaiians and the rest of the community...Doane said Hawaiians and the rest of the community has a special relationship with the land. Two communities have a relationship, not just Hawaiians. So, how is this a race-based movement genius?<BR/><BR/>You're mixing up "sovereignty" issues with state law issues. Why can't you get it?Don't Sell Ceded Landshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04571402225908767556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-71638489261170311792009-02-02T15:52:00.000-08:002009-02-02T15:52:00.000-08:00http://tinyurl.com/ac2uew will take you to a News ...<A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/ac2uew" REL="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ac2uew</A> will take you to a News Release from the Governor's office. In that news release it reads, "The three top bond rating firms have reaffirmed Hawai'i's bond ratings, which are at their highest level in State history."<BR/><BR/>Mark Bennett, on January 7, 2009 said that the Hawai'i Supreme Court's ruling has affected the State's financial status and that the state has had to place information regarding the ruling on its bonds. You can watch video footage of Bennett's comments at <A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/cxzyv6" REL="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cxzyv6</A>Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-34826234513746119672009-02-02T13:11:00.000-08:002009-02-02T13:11:00.000-08:00The ceded lands movement? Tell us exactly what t...The ceded lands movement? Tell us exactly what the so-called "ceded" lands movement is. The movement is hardly racist. If it is racist, who is it specifically racist against? If it is racist, why is there support for a ceded lands moratorium from people of different ethnicities. <BR/><BR/>The truth is, the ceded lands issue is completely independent of the sovereignty movement, even though you attempt to lump them together. They're completely different. We're very familiar with the long list of Hawaiian Kingdom nationals who were naturalized citizens, many of us have identified ancestors who were naturalized citizens. Despite what you may think, the "ceded" lands issue and our approach to it is completely independent of the sovereignty movement. <BR/><BR/>Regarding the bond rating, if you listen to Mark Bennett's 1/7/09 comments on this video http://www.viddler.com/explore/kupuaina/videos/6/ . He says that the case has had an effect, however, a News Release from the Gov's Office says otherwise. Check it out here http://tinyurl.com/ac2uew Instead of you buying Clayton a lunch, how about you just buy me a lunch. You know what? Save your money, and how about you just stop posting here?Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-56939284115991347122009-02-01T14:11:00.000-08:002009-02-01T14:11:00.000-08:00Again complete disengenuousness when Coalition mem...Again complete disengenuousness when Coalition member Jocelyn Doane said, "This issue is not one that pits the Native Hawaiian community against the non-Native Hawaiian community,” Doane said. “Hawaiians have a special relationship with the land, and so does the rest of the community.”<BR/><BR/>This is all part of the over all sovereignty movement which is a race-based movement. The majority of the Hawaiians who support the movement refuse to acknowledge the fact that in 1893 the citizens of the Kingdom of Hawaii were not entirely of the "Hawaiian" race and that these non-Hawaiian citizens lost their kingdom, lost their land, as well. There were many Orientals and Caucasians who gave up citizenship in their former countries and swore their allegiance to the monarchy and the Kingdom of Hawaii. What about these folks? They cannot attend Kamehameha Schools; they cannot participate in the benefit rendered by the Office of Hawaiian Affairs or Hawaiian Homes Land. How is this fair and just? How is it that of the present day descendents of the kingdom’s citizenry, only the ethnic “Hawaiians” (more correctly Tahitians) will get to enjoy the benefits of sovereignty? The Hawaiians have taken what is a political issue and turned it into a racial one and that is just plain wrong. The fundamental defect in the righteousness and validity of the Hawaiian Sovereignty cause is that it takes what is in fact a political issue and turns it into a racial one. Until that flaw is rectified, the cause is doomed to failure not only in achieving its goals but in being legitimate and credible.Manawaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14534748612454568095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-69688265535908650972009-02-01T14:02:00.000-08:002009-02-01T14:02:00.000-08:00Clayton Hee is completely disingenuous (and he kno...Clayton Hee is completely disingenuous (and he knows it) when he said, "The administration's claims that the state's bond rating is affected by the Apology Resolution's call for a settlement are untrue." <BR/><BR/>A moratorium WOULD directly impact the State's bond rating and here's how: The moratorium would be (ultimately) sited by the Hawaii Supreme Court in the ensuing and inevitable litigation as a basis to have all rents earned from the "ceded lands" paid entirely to OHA for Native Hawaiian programs. Right now it is only 20 percent to OHA, the rest being used according to law, for all residents of these islands without regard to race. Without these revenues going into the State's general fund, the State's income would be drastically reduced thereby effecting the its bond rating which is based entirely on the State's financial health and prospects. Prove me wrong Clayton and I’ll buy you lunch!Manawaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14534748612454568095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-26099103409013371542009-02-01T13:57:00.000-08:002009-02-01T13:57:00.000-08:00The unfortunate truth about the sovereignty and ce...The unfortunate truth about the sovereignty and ceded lands movements is that they are racist movements. The majority of the Native Hawaiians who support these causes refuse to acknowledge the fact that in 1893 the citizens of the Kingdom of Hawaii were not entirely of the "Hawaiian" race and that these non-Hawaiian citizens lost their kingdom; lost their land, as well. There were many Orientals and Caucasians who gave up citizenship in their former countries and swore their allegiance to the monarchy and the Kingdom of Hawaii. Go look at the long list of naturalized non-native citizens of the Kingdom of Hawaii posted at the Hawaiian Kingdom government's site. (http://www.hawaiiankingdom.org/index.shtml) What about the descendents of these folks? Why shouldn't all the descendents of the citizens of the Kingdom of Hawaii be entitled to the sought after benefits?<BR/> <BR/>The fundamental defect in the righteousness and validity of the Hawaiian Sovereignty cause is that it takes what is in fact a political issue and turns it into a racial one. Until that flaw is rectified, the cause is doomed to failure not only in achieving its goals but in being legitimate and credible.Manawaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14534748612454568095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-7833324145856801252009-01-27T12:55:00.000-08:002009-01-27T12:55:00.000-08:00Yeah! I was excited to see that people were chatti...Yeah! I was excited to see that people were chatting while we were webcasting. I just didn't realize that it was happening until the webcast was over, and as you can tell by the "pasting" I didn't get a complete cut and paste of your chat session.Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-57189384751491010832009-01-27T05:14:00.000-08:002009-01-27T05:14:00.000-08:00The meeting I attended, Mark Bennet hedged but sta...The meeting I attended, Mark Bennet hedged but stated that he would still fight the moratorium. Actually, this seems out of his hands now that 3o states are sending in amicus briefs in support of him. Could be a career advancement for him. The Aztlan group also filed an amicus brief supporting the Hawaii Supreme Court's decision since they have a similar situation with the ceded lands in America. This case has larger rammifications than just Hawai'i Albeit Hawai'i has a unique situation. Bennet attempted to validate the Newlands Resolution while invalidating the Apology bill stating there were two different situations even if the process was the same. <BR/><BR/>We know the US Department of Justice , office of Legal Council in Oct. 4, 1988 concluded,"It is therefore unclear which constitutional power Congress exercised when it acquired Hawai'i by joint resolution. <BR/>Accordingly, it is doubtful that the acquisition of Hawai'i can serve as an appropriate precedent for a congresional assertion of sovereignty over an extended territorial sea."<BR/><BR/>Cong. Rec. 5975 (1898), Rep Ball characterized the effort to annex Hawai'i by joint resolution after the defeat of the treaty as "a deliberate attempt to do unlawfully that which cannot be lawfully done". <BR/><BR/>The Turbie Resolution helped pave the way for the Newlands Resolution. Thus, the Newlands Resolution is unlawful and no lands was legitimately ceded to the U.S. <BR/><BR/>The Statehood Bill was also filled with irregularies to make it null and void along with the voting process and what was not on the ballot. Since the Newlands was invalidated; so would the statehood bill and its irregular voting process. It is now common knowledge the the Hawaiian Kingdom still exists thus the ipso facto state cannot fence stolen property.Tanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02152853054176276640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-80883690126822650312009-01-26T22:13:00.000-08:002009-01-26T22:13:00.000-08:00We were discussing the position of Lt. Governor Ai...We were discussing the position of Lt. Governor Aiona, who obviously supports all decisions of Governor Lingle, including on the ceded lands issue, unfortunately........Glen Veneziohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01051937107839758908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-76951197796581970832009-01-22T02:38:00.000-08:002009-01-22T02:38:00.000-08:00We've got a good number of postcards for Senator C...We've got a good number of postcards for Senator Chun Oakland.Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3466716522661612440.post-29858078896720138312009-01-22T02:37:00.000-08:002009-01-22T02:37:00.000-08:00Aloha Glen,We've been encouraging people on our e-...Aloha Glen,<BR/><BR/>We've been encouraging people on our e-mail list and on our website to contact their legislators. It's impossible to know if people are doing that. Our decision to use postcards made it easier for us to both monitor and ensure that there is communications occurring between the legislators and constituents.Kupu‘āina Coalitionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13852323618564859997noreply@blogger.com